{"id":1183,"date":"2017-09-06T00:00:06","date_gmt":"2017-09-06T05:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/?p=1183"},"modified":"2020-09-29T23:09:00","modified_gmt":"2020-09-30T03:09:00","slug":"cease-and-desist-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/cease-and-desist-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Cease and Desist"},"content":{"rendered":"

SAICO and\/or Go hands (3rd party company) requested \u201ccease and desist\u201d.\u00a0 However, it was more related to the SA White Book<\/a>.\u00a0 We still do NOT agree with the following facts:<\/p>\n

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  1. SAICO receives NO MONEY or royalties from the sales of the White Book yet continues to endorse and sell 10,000s of books.<\/li>\n
  2. Historically, literature sales in AA and other 12 Step programs have always been a major source of income, yet there are several people running the show who are NOT members of SA and collecting a salary<\/li>\n
  3. AA and many other 12 Step programs publish their literature online for FREE<\/li>\n
  4. We find it to be preposterous that the SAICO central office took such an AGGRESSIVE position threatening to sue webmaster over this matter<\/li>\n
  5. It was NEVER webmaster’s intention to profit on the White Book nor violate any laws.\u00a0 He could NEVER pay back what SA has given him\u2013priceless gift and he\u2019ll always be eternally grateful<\/li>\n
  6. On our home page we clearly state: \u201cThis site is not endorsed by SA, nor does it represent SA as a whole\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n
  7. Read more<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Here are some excerpts from the actual letter below\u2026<\/p>\n

    For the record, here are the chronological facts:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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    1. When we introduced the www.saphonemeeting.org<\/a> website in 2009 it received support from one person \u2013 Chad C.\u00a0 I sent out an email to a long list of members soliciting their advice that I knew and he was the ONLY person who replied.<\/li>\n
    2. The www.sa.org<\/a> and www.denversa.org<\/a> webmasters have changed hands, but Chad C has offered lots of sound advice and guidance over the years.<\/li>\n
    3. In addition, I worked very closely with Kay S. at the SAICO central office to follow certain attribution polices related to copyright laws (e.g. \u201cAdapted with permission from \u2026.\u201d) and non-conference approved literature.<\/li>\n
    4. The sole purpose of the website was to provide up-to-date phone number changes, codes and new meeting schedule as well as hosting the various custom scripts and formats for each of the meetings<\/li>\n
    5. There are many SA Members and groups that continue to reference the website including 2215 and 2400 groups because they often do not have a secretary to lead the meeting and ask for someone to facilitate.\u00a0 What better way to encourage consistency than to refer people to a website where any member can quickly download the script and lead the meeting.\u00a0 That\u2019s how most people got involved on the Noon teleconference.<\/li>\n
    6. I prefer to stay out of the controversy with other people\u2019s agendas and will continue to work together with people who are sensible on this matter.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      For example, the Baltimore SA Intergroup has worked very hard to introduce new ideas to the fellowship and had one of the most successful International Conventions in the history of SA last year.\u00a0 Many of the members who I have worked with for counsel and governance on the www.saphonemeeting.org<\/a> project\u00a0 are long-standing \u201cSOBER MEMBERS\u201d from the local area, which incidentally was Chad\u2019s suggestion.\u00a0\u00a0 Moreover, Sexual recovery is up against the odds\u2013Pornographic websites 4.2 million (12% of total websites).\u00a0 The sexual advertising culture we live in today has a devastating impact on our society.\u00a0 It is very, very dangerous when you consider \u201cChild Pornography, Child Sexual Abuse and Human Sex Trafficking\u201d.\u00a0 Being a family man, which I know you are as well, it is critical that we work together towards the common good.\u00a0 Not fight against each other.<\/p>\n

      Take for instance the New York Times Magazine: It ran a cover story on May 18 called \u201cNaked Capitalists: There\u2019s No Business Like Porn Business.\u201d Its thesis: Pornography is big business\u2013with $10 billion to $14 billion in annual sales. The author,\u00a0 Frank\u00a0\u00a0 Rich Frank Rich , suggests that pornography is bigger than any of the major league sports, perhaps bigger than Hollywood. Porn is \u201cno longer a sideshow to the mainstream\u2026it is the mainstream,\u201d he says.\u00a0\u00a0 The Country Revenue in China is $27 Billion (number one), South Korea $25B\u00a0 and Japan $19B.\u00a0 Sources: Real Truth<\/a>, Enough<\/a>, Wiki<\/a>, Forbes<\/a>, Family<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

      SAICO and\/or Go hands (3rd party company) requested \u201ccease and desist\u201d.\u00a0 However, it was more related to the SA White Book.\u00a0 We still do NOT agree with the following facts: SAICO receives NO MONEY or royalties from the sales of the White Book yet continues to endorse and sell 10,000s of books. Historically, literature sales … Continue reading Cease and Desist<\/span> →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1183"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/16"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1183"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1183\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2961,"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1183\/revisions\/2961"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1183"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1183"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/saphonemeeting.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1183"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}